This is written in response to what has recently happened to my blog. It has suddenly become alive again :)
Thanks to those who defended the gospel and me. Thanks to G, Sher and Tan who stood up for me (and of course, stood up for Jesus). I felt very blessed and touched that someone actually defended both the gospel and me myself.
I love you all :)
As for Night Sky, I thank God because He heard my prayer for you:) I've seen the change of your attitude towards me, and that encouraged me a lot. I was happier than anyone that day as I read your comments on another post. Infact, I have left a personal note for u there, just wonder if you saw it.
Now re: 1) should I or should I not express my thoughts/emotion on my blog, and 2) 'is the bible valid and have we as believers really met Jesus', from a friend's point of view, I do not intend to argue with you (because you have become my friend).
But from a true believer's point of view, I feel compelled to say that I can't (and in fact no human can) provide any evidence that will make the whole world believe in Jesus. No matter how articulate I or G or Sher or Tan could be, we would never convince a heart that does not believe unless he/she really does wanna believe.
Faith and evidence have never been in agreement.
I like one of the AW Tozer's sermons.
' The witness of the church is most effective when she declares rather than explains, for the gospel is addressed not to reason but to faith. What can be proved requires no faith to accept. Faith rests upon the character of God, not upon the demonstrations of laboratory or logic. '
Night Sky, I would love to keep in touch with you. Do let this friendship to continue , please:)
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Dear Siew Wai,
How great is the Lord's mercy and love! And how encouraging it should be that you have chosen to show this mercy and love in times of trial and persecution. :)Hebrews 6:10-12. Do continue to walk strong in Him- you have been a faithful servant of Christ.
And Night Sky- will you allow God to soften your heart and in doing so, experience the wonders and beauty of His love? Do continue to seek after Him, in whatever way you are doing. For faith is grown and strengthened from doubts answered… :)
Amen! :) hugs, lee ping.
Night Sky where are u?....have u read my msg for u? keep in touch because u are an intersting person :)
siew wai,
dis is irene again...i'd like to leave a msg here again...
from u, i realli can see God's wisdom, love and mercy... i'm sooooo proud of being yr fd...i thought dat's a trial God gave u, even there is one person who doesnt believe in God, there are more than one (at least u and yr fdsss)who are God's follower, it's a chance to let u convince more n' more ppl. to follow Him... add oil arrrr...
btw, when will cum to HK to visit me and mike arrrr....haha
i can't believe that your religion cannot prove its supremacy.
so your only claim to it being the true path is bcos someone taught you so?
or is it based upon your own imagination?
Azazel
if a person really wants to believe in the calling, why does he/she need you to convince? why would that person need any evidence to its truth? he or she would ALREADY BE CONVINCED before you even open your mouth, before your powerful god even twitch a muscle, that gullible fool would have already believed. you use circular logic.
no facts, only twists of rhetoric.
Azazel
Dear Siew Wai,
sorry for the late post, i have been busy with soccer and uni work that i felt i should off the pc.. tired of it. Well i did read your note, and i woud have to say that you were really sweet. and yes i think having discussions about faith is good. well me being an agnostic helps because i will question you a lot and in the process you would broaden your horizons with the different people you are going to meet, I might sound mean at times with your comments but do realise that i hold no hate to your heart and faith. I am being sincere and honest. Thanks for the note again, u made my day actually.
NightSky
to Irene :
thanks for your encouragement :) very sweet of u irene! yeeerrrrr...makes me miss those days in Ipoh Garden.. :P
To Azazel,
Precisely!
' If someone wanna believe, why does he/she need me to convice? '
and
' Why would that person need any evidence?'
What you said was exactly what I as a Christian believe, you spoke of that with your own mouth, then why did you contradict yourself by asking us if that faith was built on our imagination?
Silly Siew,
I didn't contradict myself. I am asserting that yours can only be a faith based upon imagination and that you only welcome those who share such imaginations into your fold. No wonder you prey on the sick and invalid, people who have little reasoning power against your delusions.
That you feel no need to justify your beliefs should also mean you have no right to think that yours is the only path to salvation. For if there is nothing to prove that you are right, why should others be wrong?
Azazel
wyinck,
I've noticed that your "movement" seems to want to portray itself as being less doctrinal and less official, more "user friendly".
Christianity is not a religion? Hah! For so long, Christianity was a religion... until the Age of Reason took over. The earth is no longer the center of the universe... Ethereal matter does not make things spontaneously appear... Longevity is not by God's grace but a product of healthy living and diet.....
Now you want to reinvent the Christian image as being not so concerned about facts? More about emotional connection with God??
Christ DID convince people, my dear. Was it not written that the people marvelled at the way He spoke? Were part of his teachings not immortalised as the Sermon on the Mount? Wasn't He a great Rabbi?
Now you would have us believe He merely touched people with His aura? Charisma?
Now you would have me believe that Christ ONLY made a psycho-emotional connection with his audience to convince them He was the one?
Where then is that knowledge, O follower of Christ? Where is the wisdom? Or have you turned into a bunch of swooning swans?
You are all merely content to state things without reason. And then congratulate each other that you're "spiritually strong". Where is the basis of what you say?
If you ever spoke to a Fallen, It would tell you that your version of Christianity is revised, watered down and weak, compared to what was before.
You shy away from the power of reason. For this is the age of skepticism. And all you want is to believe, not fight for your faith. The easy path. - Matt 7:14
So again I ask, how do you justify what you believe beyond sentimental stirrings? - 1 Peter 3:15
Azazel
To Azazel,
It is ok u call me SILLY. u may also call me dumb, stupid, foolish, insane, psychotic, delusional, etc... i m alright with that. Because to anyone who does not believe in Christ, we Christians really look quite dumb. But I am happy to be dumb for the my Lord Jesus :)
Two more things,
1) You mentioned that I did NOT welcome people who don't share the same faith. When has it happened? Plz show me your evidence.WAS I RUDE TO ANYONE? Infact the way you initiated this discussion seems defensive in the first place.
2) Have I ever mentioned the word 'WRONG' to other ppl who don't share the same faith? Plz also point out my mistake if I ever had any.
Afterall, I do not have power and authority to judge/accuse anyone. Therefore I do not say whether you are right or wrong. Why did you feel I accused you of not sharing the same faith?
Jesus HIMSELF has said HE IS THE ONLY WAY, I was just conveying what Jesus has said. I don't speak of my own opinion.
I am quite dumb therefore I am afraid I cant satisfy your curiosity/confrontation.
If you have further enquiry/feedback, plz ask JESUS, He is my BOSS. I am sure if you ask Him/confront Him in person,He will answer you.
Keep me updated.
Silly Siew,
I do not need your permission. I have seen that you enjoy bearing humiliation like a badge of loyalty for your Christian identity. That is exactly why you have been designated as such.
Don't whine that "outsiders" don't understand you, and thus think you are "dumb". You do not bother to explain your faith, so the impression you give is your own doing.
1) Did you not say that you would not bother to convince a heart that refuses to believe? You only want easy believers. You refuse to address your critics.
2) If you did not think they were on the wrong path, why are you so eager to draw them to Christ? Why do you harrass patients who are weak and sick and sometimes seem like they were dying to you?
Instead of listening to their request or final words (which as a carer is your DUTY), you choose to encourage them to acknowledge the God of your faith.
What if their desire was to call for a relative or to pass on a message to a loved one?
And then all Silly Siew is interested in is to get the dying patient to verbally "accept Jesus".
Oh, you didn't say the word "WRONG", Silly Siew. But don't be coy and innocent. Your every breath and every action exposes your opinion of other religions. If people of other religions need to be SAVED, then are you not saying their religion brings them to destruction?
Don't play hypocrite with me.
Azazel
You are assuming that I FAILED to carry out my duty as a DOCTOR/CARER? and you called it harrassment to the patients? :)
Azazel, what is the basis of your assumption? Are you speaking from your own point of view, or the patients'? Do you know them? Have they told you they were harrassed?
Probably you have not been terminally ill. You wouldn't know what it feels like to have someone sitting next to your sick bed, spending time with you,while you were all alone, facing death.
Did I FORCE them to believe in Christ? Just like what you said in your previous comment, they don't need me to convince them. It is their choice. The patients felt happy and relieved after doing that,then may I ask you, have I caused them any harm?
Have you been there? Have you walked that journey as a dying patient? IF NOT, PLZ STOP ACCUSING ME OF NOT DOING MY JOB AS A DOCTOR/CARER.
And to be frank with you, I am not acting innocent. As you can see, I am actually quite dumb, that's why I will not win over you in this so-called debate.
Therefore, if all you want is to prove that you are right and I am wrong; you are strong and I am weak; you are real and I am a hypocrite, let it be.
I will not entertain any further discussion.
God bless you.
Wow... so much 'action' here. =D
Sometimes the best defense is making no defense. Growing up, many people have questioned this God. Some do this with a sense of gentleness, others with outright force, vulgarity, and what-nots. It does get on our nerves and even evoke anger. But the harder we try to "convince" others, the worse it seems to get... You can provide arguments, try as hard as you can to explain your point of view but sometimes all the effort seems to be in vain.
Christ's example was interesting. Faced with opposition and questions, all he said about his identity was that He was the Son of God and the Son of Man. Truth is, it is God who saves, God who would eventually brings His sheep back home, all that with choice. So what then is a Christian to do but to share his/her testimony as living evidence of His goodness. True that there is no use in trying to convince. We were not called to be direct sellers of the gospel.
When faced with questionning, opposing souls, smile! Smile big and wide! Because it's really an indication that something's brewing inside them. Which leads to a need/urge to question. [After all, why question and debate so much about a car when you're not even near buying one? Questions really indicate interest! *winks*] So smile! and pray for His spirit to take control, bless them, and keep on walking. For our God needs no defending, He is well capable of doing it on His own with no human help. We were called only to keep running our race, keep living life right before Him and He is faithful to bring the plans He has for our lives to come to conclusion. Take joy Siew Wai, take joy!
Much love, hugs, and more hugs!!!
sher-mayne =]
well said, sher :)
that's why i said 'I WILL NOT ENTERTAIN ANY MORE DISCUSSION ABT THIS.'
and I have not been affected emotionally, just thought i needed to sound more SERIOUS AND FORMAL in the last comment :P
well, still smiling, still smiling :) u know me :)
And i know it is a spiritual attack, cuz I am writing a sermon for this Friday. Just this week I had many obstacles in many things.
SO, ALL MY FRIENDS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT ME.If you know me well, u know I will just laugh about this matter :)
love
Lols... yes yes laugh! I was seriously laughing through the post. I miss you dear Siew Wai! Better yumcha when you get back to KL!!!!
Hugs hugs hugs!
sher =]
Dear Azazel (interesting name/pseudonym too, does it mean anything? Just being random),
Please do not take SiewWai's 'refusal to entertain' or anyone else's for that matter to mean that we are not able to intellectually and theologically defend our faith.
It is not for the lack of understanding or 'blind-faith' that we choose to do this - for we believe with our heads AND hearts.
Personally, I sometimes think that some (not necessarily meaning you in particular,inquisitive Azazel) would rather be drawn into an 'intellectual' conversation, arguing the why's and why-nots, dissecting every single word theologically and having a 'smart alec' comment than to ask themselves why even 'debate' in the first place and confront whatever they have experienced in their lives.
And as much as I dont quite like saying this, when people like you are voicing out 'questions', sometimes they have been taken the wrong way in the Christian circles.
However, if you were REALLY keen on answers to your questions, there are HEAPS of resources (www,books)that will MOST DEFINITELY keep you happy.But then again, if the real motivation behind your questions is to show us how 'unable' and 'unworthy' and 'unknowledgeable' we all are as Christian, then rest assured that we know that already.
But that's part of the beauty of the Christian journey - to be able to look forward everyday to knowing and discovering more about our faith and our God.
:)
Jesus loves you, Azazel.
To gilliangel,
You wrote:
"having a 'smart alec' comment than to ask themselves why even 'debate' in the first place and confront whatever they have experienced in their lives."
Why debate? Why do I ask for reasons?
Because you are convinced that the path you choose is the Truth. Because the author of this blog feels an obligation to draw people into her version of Christianity (call it a relationship if you want but I refuse to use such misleading jargon).
Your conviction and your actions as "true" Christians, obligate you to answer observers IN A LOGICALLY COHERENT FASHION.
Were Christians not told "to be ready to defend with reasons the hope" in you? (1 Peter 3:15)
Did Christ not instruct his followers to TEACH the Gospel to the world? (Matt 28:19)
Claiming that there is no need for evidence, pointing to websites and books to read, even asserting that you are simple-minded should DISQUALIFY you from trying to proselytise. So why do you still do it?
How can you TEACH others real Christianity when you are armed with nothing but emotions?
By what right to you claim to try to "save" people when you have not proven to yourself (in a rationally competent manner) that yours is the true path?
How do you know that they need saving, esp When you yourself have no proof that you are saved other than high emotions?
Azazel
"You are assuming that I FAILED to carry out my duty as a DOCTOR/CARER? and you called it harrassment to the patients? "
Silly Siew,
I did not claim that you failed your duty as a MED STUDENT. I am saying that you're OVERSTEPPING your obligations as one.
It is NOT your place to get patients to mouth the words "I believe in Yesu". Were you taught that in Med school? Were you?
What a disgrace. You fail to separate work from religion.
Would you sit quietly if a Muslim nurse got your grandmother to recite the al-fatihah?
Then don't act like your Christian activities are soooo secular and all-in-a-day's-job.
If you think that you have not overstepped your boundaries why don't you check with your supervisor?
Do I need to know your patients well to know that you're making a mistake? Esp when you have so boldly testified against yourself. What silly logic.
Azazel
Dear Azazel,
This may come across as a very elementary question, so I do beg your pardon for my ignorance (if perceived so); what effect does the content of Siew Wai's blog and the 'defenses' have on you?
I shall assume that it is far deeper than you merely being disturbed by the content seeing that you strike me as being a mature enough individual to know to walk away from something that has no bearings or importance to you. So it is most probably safe to say that you seem provoked not by the disturbance factor.
Then it brings me to another question. Why such intrigue in the issue at hand (if any issue exists)?
Perhaps you have been hurt by Christians in the past? Or perhaps you have had an unpleasant experience with people that claim to be Christians? If so, nothing may be able to heal the wounds. Nevertheless, I'd still like to apologize on their behalf. You mentioned about 'fallen ones'. Heuristics would point that you fall into that category. Being able to quote certain non-popular verses would suggest that you do have a certain level of knowledge of the Bible and its scriptures. But have you had a personal encounter with the Word Himself? Just as dust becoming something living, a personal encounter with the Maker breathes life, understanding, comfort, and answers you so seek.
You strike me as a sensible, knowledgeable, and logical person. So, if the idea of 'Christians being not able to prove and defend their faith' affects you, why not go to the source of the 'religion' then? When one experiences irritation and dissatisfactions with a product won't the most logical thing to do be bringing one's complaints to the highest authority?
Of course I could be totally wrong and misguided about you.
Note: These were just my passion thoughts. Not bearing any hidden messages or intentions. Any annoyances that have been cause by this is greatly regretted.
Regards,
sher-mayne
Sher-mayne,
An individual who walks away when it sees people testifying to faith, hope, truth and salvation that is based on no evidence (silly siew herself declared that there was none available) is not *mature*. That individual is apathetic.
If the ultimatum is to leave when this blog's content is irrelevant to me, then will you give me the assurance that you Christians will leave sick and confused patients alone?
Or will you continue to carry out your misson on those LEAST able to resist?
A mental patient does not need Gospel for comfort. He needs friends and family in addition to psychiatric help. Friendship should not be predicated upon religion. So if any of you are about to suggest that the gospel was Silly Siew's version of friendship, spare me the nonsense.
Besides those sick patients, I am seeking answers to see if you all know what you're talking about. So far, all I am getting is that you can "feel" the Truth. You haven't exactly proven to me AND YOURSELVES logically that it is.
That you can bring yourself to question in parentheses whether there is any issue at all, shows you miss the point: what is the evidence that your path is true and others are false?
I am going to the source of 'religion', am I not?
If you are followers of the true God, should you not bear His message? How did you come to be such zealous believers if you have not been exposed to the Message of Truth?
Again, there is no need to ask if I have experienced the Word/Maker/God. Does such an experience have any value?
Ask the Hindu and Buddhist devotees when they walk on fire and stab themselves with weapons whether they feel "God's" energy flowing through them. Ask their swami if their God speaks to them with arcane wisdoms. Ask wiccans if the Spirits communicate with them. Does Allah answer a Muslim's personal prayers?
So what makes a christian experience more right than those? An experience has no signature. How do you distinguish if it is good or bad, real or fake, miracle or self-delusion?
But logical teaching is different. Our minds can reason if something is right or wrong. So that is why I ask you for coherent proof. And you still haven't given any.
Instead you prefer to preoccupy yourself with psycho-anaylsing me. Can you fathom the nature of a Grigori?
Azazel
:)
remember and know that,
Jesus loves you, Azalea.
Hi Azazel.
I normally wouldn't intrude into other people's conversations but this one was brought to my attention due to my fiancée’s (Sher-Mayne) frequent visits to this blog.
Well, reading your posts (the one above) I get the feeling that you are debating purely with the intention of debate without malice aimed at the person. But of course, with that being mentioned, many would question my judgments due to your labeling of Siew Wai as silly. Nevertheless, this isn't about that at all.
Since this debate is about Christianity, don't mind me bringing it into the picture.
First of all, I'd like to agree with you that people who are in need first and foremost need support from real people and fellow human beings. With that being mentioned, I'd like to say that Christianity and good works should never be separated (James 2:17 - In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.). I believe it is our job as Christians to show the world love instead of trying to "convert" them. The job of "making people believe" was never supposed to be on human shoulders for God alone is the changer of hearts (Exodus 4:21 ...But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go; 1 Samuel 10:9 - ...God changed Saul's heart, and all these signs were fulfilled that day.). He alone has the power to change hearts permanently.
The second point I'd like to point out is, most religions cannot 'prove' that their paths are true. Most mention a way to an after life which cannot be proven either since all of us only see it after we leave this place. The points that we can point to are the miracles that continue to baffle science, logic, and reasoning. Our beliefs in a Maker goes inline with science that strives hard to justify the 'big bang' theory.
I believe some Christians choose not to explain and defend God is probably because they just can't. Just as there are thinkers (like you and me), there are also the simple minded. So say that God merely shows Himself through logic would mean He is highly selective on His followers and a Person of great prejudice. I believe in a God so great that He can prove Himself to everyone whether they are simple or a logical thinker. With that being said, there are Christians who are called to fight on the logical scene and these people are called Apologetics. If you really desire a much in-depth argument, I suggest you speak to one of them.
Furthermore, another reason I believe Christians are reluctant to participate in debates (myself included) is due to the mostly hostile nature of them. What normally ensures is more conflict. Even Jesus Himself did not choose to bombard his accusers with acts and knowledge that would win them over beyond doubt. Although most of His answers shut them up, they still chose not to believe in Him. I believe you have pointed this out before that we choose to 'convert' and 'accept' those who are easily won over. But that statement is slightly incorrect. We accept (at least try to) anyone, be it easily won or otherwise. Nevertheless, I'd like to say that Christianity is not solely about 'winning' people over to Jesus. We tend to over emphasize on that at times and I'm sorry for that. But even for those who are the so-called "resistant ones", I do not think we have given up on them and have moved on to others who are easily "converted". I'm sure there are numerous others who uphold them in prayer with faith and hope that one day they will turn and experience God for themselves.
In regards to my personal view and understanding of Christianity: I myself am a thinker, becoming very philosophical many a time. But I have always failed to prove God's existence to myself when it is only hinging on my own rational. I only can see His hand choosing to bless me in ways that I never have dreamt of. But looking at it from God's perspective, it would be highly unlikely if God in all His awesomeness could be proven solely by the rational of our finite minds. If He could, would He still be all that great? An understated attempt to give an analogy would be that of a cockroach trying to fathom and 'rationalize', with its own understanding, a higher being; such as a human being. It sure can see the effects of the latter’s existence revealed when we unleash our dogs at them or when we use ShieldTox bug spray just as we can see the effects of God when He so chooses to reveal Himself.
May I also point out that not everything can be explained through rationale. For example, how would one explain being in love? Or how would one explain the wind? You can observe the effects of them but how does one 'prove' their existence? Even if they are most sound without loopholes, one could still choose not to believe them.
Alas, the reason I am still a Christian despite having failed to prove God's existence to myself is found in a verse I hold dear to myself.
Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God. Through faith in Jesus I have been saved thus I cannot boast that through superior intellect I found God; a gift that I so choose to receive.
Justin
P/S: Lastly, this post was not done with the intention of winning anybody over. Just saw an opportunity to shed some of my opinions in my friend's blog.
Guys
there are better things in life to enjoy, especially the sunshine, the sunrise and the sunset, the nature walks and shopping. WHy do you guys argue over something which is a never ending story. Dont be emotional but be rational with what i put across, its true that you cant argue with a believer because he/she has a source of facts which cant be deemed nothing but the truth. So, that way, its just religion. Why not just peace out u guys and enjoy the coming of summer! And good luck in yer exams.
NightSky
haha, good one nightsky.
i totally agree wif u, there're so much good things to enjoy in life than to debate over this. sunshine, spring breeze, green trees n colorful flowers, this world is beautiful isn't it? :)
but guys, do u know wat i always use to pic this invinsible yet tengibly wonderful god? >> oxygen.
u can't see or touch oxygen but u know its there? why? becos u r taught so in science class n so u believe? haha,, of cos not...hey, we all r a bunch of intellectual 21st centurians... how could u jus believe if ur told so. everything MUST be PROVEN!
o yea, so, jus to convince us, our teachers let us did de experiment rite? u put a burning candle in an enclosed cylinder n wat happened? it kept burning till all de oxygen in de cylinder was consumed. BINGO!
hoho, conclusion is ~ OXYGEN exists! hooray... we are all convinced n happily accept this as fact.
so now, wif de case of god, can we jus picture :
candle - lives
oxygen - god
cylinders- all restrictions n barriers that keep us contained n truly connect to de real source of lives (oxygen). it could be our careers, money, fame, pride, degree, education, religions ( could even be "christianity"!)
haha... believe it or not?
how do we know if god's real? its jus as simple as how did we come to de conclusion tat oxygen exists in de experiment. we saw lives tat are fading, cos being contained in diff cylinders of lives (remember i said b4 , cylinders exists in diff forms) tat stop them from truly connected to the true source of lives. n we saw the transformation god does daily in lives around us,those burning lives tat are truly connected to god(the source of live), who has lay down their lives daily to expose themselve to de true source, de oxygen (god). u see, it takes great courage to actually allow urself be exposed to de true source cos it feels more comfortable n safe hiding in a cylinder, lookin out the beautiful surrouding, than to actually be exposed, cos when u r exposed, candles..... there're winds n storms awaiting out there. its harsh n dangerous. so, alot of people choose to stay in thier tiny little confortable diff 'cylinders' of lives.
but u will nvr be truly satisfied n happy, until u truly experience de moment of liberty in de presence of God, when ur heart is burning wif passions n desires which u r created for.
o yea, it's not easy, its not confortable all de time, its definitely not a smooth journey without any trials n obstacles ( i mean, look at wat happen to our dear fren, siew wai who is a true champ of god) but , THIS IS WAT WE ARE CREATED FOR. to burn with god, by god n for god. n hey, it may sounds silly n scary, to burn urself for this universal global creator distant god. but de fact is, it worth de price cos of de price He first paid to redeem us, de love He first showed n showered us.
i do not intend to convince anyone bout anyting, but this is just a simple analogy tat a simple mind of mine could think of to picture my almighty all-present lovely invisible God.
dear frens, GOd is too vast n too great to be contained in any 'intellectual' minds could think of to prove to debate.
even we as followers of Christ, coudln't fully explain His glories tat we haven't fully experienced. tat's why, let us humbly inspire each other to join this amazing journey of discovery, discovery of who He is n how amazing is Him.
ps.we're NOT jus being silly n biased by our emotions though we might look like one once in a while.
w.kwong,
I am not a shrub.
AzaZEL
Finally a Christian worth his salt!
Dear Justin,
It does not bother me if you are trying to win me over so as long as you are speaking rationally.
It's refreshing to hear you admit honestly that you've been unable to prove God's existence from a purely philosophical point of view.
It is also interesting to note that your claim that individual religions cannot prove theirs is the true path. I could have sworn that your Christian peers do not have such an easy going take on their Truth.
I also noticed that your take on salvation and coversion is distinctly different from those Christians such as Silly Siew.
If you've read her experiences in the hospital and if you've read the comments of people who cheer her on, you cannot deny that these Christians are not MERELY sharing love with the world. They are on a specific mission of drawing defenseless people to what they believe is the True Path.
I find it highly offensive and profesionally UNETHICAL that Silly Siew would target people needing medical care.
Furthermore, you claim that Christians DO NOT give up on resistant ones, moving on to others who are more easily persuaded. Perhaps you don't. But look at Silly Siew. She has concluded that she does not need to address any of my questions and declared herself to be under "spiritual attack".
Again I see a difference between what you are claiming for Christians and how some on this blog behave.
I don't know how you are connected to SS, but she has much to learn from you, medical degree or not.
I have little tolerance for ignorant people who bolster their error with pride, false humility or delusion.
My original question was not about proof of God's existence. I wanted to hear how you know that you guys are in the True path so as to justify your efforts at converting others. And you have answered this satisfactorily.
I do not begrudge you of your faith and confidence in your religion. But I will say this:
Human cognitive abilities cannot comprehend the wonders of an All-Wise, All-Powerful Being.
But surely you acknowledge that even our simple minds can discern the existence of evil, the misinterpretation of Scriptures and the extremism in certain factions of Christianity. Such observations are not beyond our mental comprehension. And these rightfully make people ponder God's role in our affairs.
I admire the positive approach you take with your religious beliefs and your view and treatment of others. Too bad so few think like you do.
Azazel
:)
of course you're not a shrub.
shrubs can't be reasoning or having freewill or even typing.
however, you are someone and you are loved by Jesus.
and everyone has their reasons for believing.
i believe, but i have doubts too.
in my belief, i ask for help in my unbelief.
hey azazel,
well you have got your sub ordinate here:) well i am agnostic and i dont mind debating this topics once in a while. Well, Miss Woanyi, i did not expect you to hit me with another sentiment or metaphor about beautiful earth and its wonderful creatures. I just thouht you people could let all this religious insanity go away for some time. Coz seriously guys, arguments like this are never ending, like that movie, the neverending story. The very existance of christianity is a doubt anyway, why even uphold it? I understand if it was kept as a religion, faith or belief, but a way of life? I believe there are more things to look forward for in life.
And yeah, you have got to give respect to Azazel, man/woman, your one fighter of your belief. Keep it up. Without Azazel you guys wont be up your seats and getting startled by everyword he/she says. Nevertheless, makes all of us more learned and less naive.
Thats enough for me, cant wait fer siew wai to get her blog running again.
With respect,
NightSky
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